Yes I believe all schools are indoctrination centers but not in the way most people believe. They are set up to remove the thinking process from the masses brain. After study of Walter Russell's cosmology I have determined nearly everything taught in school at the fundamentals is false. For instance if opposites do not attract how does this fact change a chemistry education. If what people so casually call matter is motion and never rises to the physical what does this say about a quantum physics degree. What if germ theory is a fraud, what does this say about "doctors". And don't get me started on religion.
Do you believe that's the case across the board? What about for subjects like literature and languages? Perhaps this is why I have a hard time seeing the educational system as completely fraudulent. I spent the bulk of my college studies working with language -- writing, reading, speaking, translating, etc. And I never felt as though I were being mislead or manipulated.
And what are your thoughts on philosophy? I spent a good deal of time studying philosophy and different schools of thought in high school and college. The whole point in philosophy was to get students to ask difficult questions, consider terrible scenarios, and to critically think their way through them.
I do agree with you that there's a lot of schooling based on incorrect or fraudulent foundations, but I can't accept that all education is bad because of that. Really the root issue is that our society as a whole doesn't encourage free thinking or critical thinking. And with parents outsourcing much of their responsibilities to smartphones, AI assistants, schools, churches, TV, etc., children aren't being equipped with these faculties early on either.
It is interesting you mention literature and languages. One of my new endeavors is etymology. What I can say after my limited investment of time in this subject is in the world written and spoken language I have a whole new understanding. I can give a short example. The bible we are told is the word of God and we are taught the stories of the flood, exodus and the crucifixion of Jesus. The truth of these stories is revealed when you have the key of allegory. They are all allegorical interpretations of aspects of the human body and mind. It sure changes things when you understand the red sea is representative of emotions and parting it means controlling the emotions. Vortex math is another exciting new adventure I'm starting. Imagine, even our mathematics have been corrupted. I hope we continue to talk.
I was raised Catholic and always had a really hard time with what we were told was the truth in church and CCD every weekend. I constantly got in trouble for asking questions. In the priests' minds, the Bible was the end-all, be-all. If Adam and Eve were the first and only people on this planet, then that was the case. And there couldn't be such a thing as dinosaurs because they didn't exist in scripture.
I walked away from religion in sixth grade and have felt really sour about the whole thing ever since. What you say about it all being allegory makes so much sense. I wish that was the purpose of religion (or, really, the religious texts).
I think religion is one of those things that people grasp onto tightly because they're terrified of having to think for themselves or to go through this life on their own merit. It's really no different than people who worship at the altar of big government or celebrity. So to divert from what the Bible or other religious book tells them is to break that illusion. Even if they would benefit from understanding the allegory, people just don't want to hear it.
I’d say from my experience, in the blue metropolitan regions, the schools are corrupted by that and more. But I’ve taught in suburban areas of mixed political interests, and they aren’t nearly as politicized (however it’s there) but the lack of rigor and competency in teachers overall, especially in the humanities and especially in reading and writing English classes, is pretty bad. That’s a function of the techno-hegemony we have now more than ideology. But the two combined is a death blow.
Do you think there's any saving it? What if more conservative or libertarian leaning folks decided to become teachers? Would that balance the scales? Or is the administration so utterly corrupt that it doesn't matter how well-intentioned the teachers are?
This sociopathic system of top-down power is likely the natural default for human organization; by natural I mean beastly, barbaric, uncivilized, animalistic. We still have those drives and inclinations because evil is the easier option in survival. This is why clinically sociopathic and psychopathic individuals thrive in these circumstances. It is their ethos we are living by. Civic goodness is hard. Accountability is painful. I am seeing this same structure (both the rigidity of the power hierarchy and the benign, inclusive, deceitful language employed) at the corporate grocery store where I currently work.
Administrators are corrupted by the much bigger salaries and degree of influence but, more than influence, they're corrupted by the degree of their job security. There is no accountability for them. It all comes down on the teacher who steps out of line, mostly stepping out of line in ways that seek truth. Bad behavior in teachers is denied and therefore protected. It is systemic sociopathy. It is a sickness in American cultural power structures, left and right. Perhaps, it is just a human sickness. The worst part is that young people are stuck in this situation where the structure is rigid and "abusive" (corrupt, lying, denying, punitive), but the language used is inclusive, nurturing, benign. The reality and the communication are diametrically opposed. This is the manifestation of the sociopathy that has been nurtured within the system. Accountability is the only mechanism capable to change it; but that requires everyone to buy in, for people to be fired, for the way we grade and hold students accountable, etc. In short, a complete overhaul of culture and behavior within it is needed to remake education. I don't think it is possible without first enduring total collapse, however many individual schools have reverted to classical study and accountability. They are anomalies and cannot therefore affect the change in the larger public establishments.
Oh man, I'm so glad you responded. Though the picture you paint is bleak. I feel very sorry for these students. I feel very sorry for the teachers who actually believe in education and want to do right by their students. What a messed up system, though I guess it's symptomatic of the corruption and rot everywhere else in our society.
Yes I believe all schools are indoctrination centers but not in the way most people believe. They are set up to remove the thinking process from the masses brain. After study of Walter Russell's cosmology I have determined nearly everything taught in school at the fundamentals is false. For instance if opposites do not attract how does this fact change a chemistry education. If what people so casually call matter is motion and never rises to the physical what does this say about a quantum physics degree. What if germ theory is a fraud, what does this say about "doctors". And don't get me started on religion.
Do you believe that's the case across the board? What about for subjects like literature and languages? Perhaps this is why I have a hard time seeing the educational system as completely fraudulent. I spent the bulk of my college studies working with language -- writing, reading, speaking, translating, etc. And I never felt as though I were being mislead or manipulated.
And what are your thoughts on philosophy? I spent a good deal of time studying philosophy and different schools of thought in high school and college. The whole point in philosophy was to get students to ask difficult questions, consider terrible scenarios, and to critically think their way through them.
I do agree with you that there's a lot of schooling based on incorrect or fraudulent foundations, but I can't accept that all education is bad because of that. Really the root issue is that our society as a whole doesn't encourage free thinking or critical thinking. And with parents outsourcing much of their responsibilities to smartphones, AI assistants, schools, churches, TV, etc., children aren't being equipped with these faculties early on either.
It is interesting you mention literature and languages. One of my new endeavors is etymology. What I can say after my limited investment of time in this subject is in the world written and spoken language I have a whole new understanding. I can give a short example. The bible we are told is the word of God and we are taught the stories of the flood, exodus and the crucifixion of Jesus. The truth of these stories is revealed when you have the key of allegory. They are all allegorical interpretations of aspects of the human body and mind. It sure changes things when you understand the red sea is representative of emotions and parting it means controlling the emotions. Vortex math is another exciting new adventure I'm starting. Imagine, even our mathematics have been corrupted. I hope we continue to talk.
I was raised Catholic and always had a really hard time with what we were told was the truth in church and CCD every weekend. I constantly got in trouble for asking questions. In the priests' minds, the Bible was the end-all, be-all. If Adam and Eve were the first and only people on this planet, then that was the case. And there couldn't be such a thing as dinosaurs because they didn't exist in scripture.
I walked away from religion in sixth grade and have felt really sour about the whole thing ever since. What you say about it all being allegory makes so much sense. I wish that was the purpose of religion (or, really, the religious texts).
I think religion is one of those things that people grasp onto tightly because they're terrified of having to think for themselves or to go through this life on their own merit. It's really no different than people who worship at the altar of big government or celebrity. So to divert from what the Bible or other religious book tells them is to break that illusion. Even if they would benefit from understanding the allegory, people just don't want to hear it.
I’d say from my experience, in the blue metropolitan regions, the schools are corrupted by that and more. But I’ve taught in suburban areas of mixed political interests, and they aren’t nearly as politicized (however it’s there) but the lack of rigor and competency in teachers overall, especially in the humanities and especially in reading and writing English classes, is pretty bad. That’s a function of the techno-hegemony we have now more than ideology. But the two combined is a death blow.
Do you think there's any saving it? What if more conservative or libertarian leaning folks decided to become teachers? Would that balance the scales? Or is the administration so utterly corrupt that it doesn't matter how well-intentioned the teachers are?
This sociopathic system of top-down power is likely the natural default for human organization; by natural I mean beastly, barbaric, uncivilized, animalistic. We still have those drives and inclinations because evil is the easier option in survival. This is why clinically sociopathic and psychopathic individuals thrive in these circumstances. It is their ethos we are living by. Civic goodness is hard. Accountability is painful. I am seeing this same structure (both the rigidity of the power hierarchy and the benign, inclusive, deceitful language employed) at the corporate grocery store where I currently work.
Administrators are corrupted by the much bigger salaries and degree of influence but, more than influence, they're corrupted by the degree of their job security. There is no accountability for them. It all comes down on the teacher who steps out of line, mostly stepping out of line in ways that seek truth. Bad behavior in teachers is denied and therefore protected. It is systemic sociopathy. It is a sickness in American cultural power structures, left and right. Perhaps, it is just a human sickness. The worst part is that young people are stuck in this situation where the structure is rigid and "abusive" (corrupt, lying, denying, punitive), but the language used is inclusive, nurturing, benign. The reality and the communication are diametrically opposed. This is the manifestation of the sociopathy that has been nurtured within the system. Accountability is the only mechanism capable to change it; but that requires everyone to buy in, for people to be fired, for the way we grade and hold students accountable, etc. In short, a complete overhaul of culture and behavior within it is needed to remake education. I don't think it is possible without first enduring total collapse, however many individual schools have reverted to classical study and accountability. They are anomalies and cannot therefore affect the change in the larger public establishments.
Oh man, I'm so glad you responded. Though the picture you paint is bleak. I feel very sorry for these students. I feel very sorry for the teachers who actually believe in education and want to do right by their students. What a messed up system, though I guess it's symptomatic of the corruption and rot everywhere else in our society.