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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Capitalism provides us with incentives to sell more services. For that, one needs repeat customers. I'm not saying that the dentists are doing it on purpose but their precious ADA controls how the "science" is done and of course it will ignore simple, cheap solutions!

Almost a decade ago, I switched to mostly wet brushing and fluoride free toothpaste 1-2x a week.

My teeth used to be sensitive a lot and I used sensodyne for it. I didn't know that it was the abrasive action of the toothpaste that tears off the film which is the repair crew for your teeth... aka "plaque".

Last month, a tooth felt sensitive and I thought oh no, cavity!

But I'm brave these days and decided to give it time. I did salt water rinses , oil pulling, and occasionally would dissolve a non aluminum antacid tablet and let it chill in that area to soak in.

It's worked so far! I think the calcium helps my guys (bacteria) patch up the tooth.

So yeah, clean clean clean.... That's the germ theory obsession of disease. The germs are there because they do things for us, not attack us.

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BreakFree's avatar

I stopped going to my dentist about a year and a half ago. They wanted to x-ray my teeth before a cleaning and I refused. The dentist said, "Next time it will need to be done." I thought, thanks for the warning, I won't be back.

Back in 2009 another dentist really tried to take me to the cleaners. I regret letting him do a crown (one of many he wanted to do) which caused me nothing but problems. When I went back in to have it adjusted (hoping it would help but it didn't) his hygienist asked me, "Have you made an appointment to have the other work done, before the pain sets in?" That did it, I didn't trust them at all anymore. I went to a dental school for a second opinion. According to them, I needed nothing. By the way, this was also the same dental school he graduated from. 4.5 years later the crown he installed broke and I had a different dentist install a new one. I've been pain free ever since.

I recently found a good organic herbal toothpaste (fluoride free) at a local Indian market. Only $4 for a large tube! I believe Middle Eastern markets might sell it as well.

This is their website that was on the box it came in: www.alriyan.com

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

Thanks for the toothpaste recommendation. My friends just turned me onto a local Indian grocery here, so I'll have to go check it out.

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Nina's avatar

I've come to the opinion that most dental procedures are unnecessary and are often causing harm. I haven't had my teeth cleaned in 20 years. I suspect that getting your teeth cleaned leads to having to keep getting your teeth cleaned (like with hair-washing - the more you do it, the more you have to do it). I make my own toothpaste and have a high degree of skepticism about dental advice. Too bad we don't know more. This field needs a paradigm shift. We know the body can be healthy and thrive without invasive intervention. Thanks for your article!

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

That is a great analogy!

What do you put in your toothpaste, by the way? I recently tried switching to Bite (https://bitetoothpastebits.com/) and really don't like it. It makes my teeth feel super gritty and I'm constantly finding small bits of it in my teeth long after brushing.

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Nina's avatar

I change it up each batch, but mostly it's a combination of clay, activated charcoal, salt, essential oils and coconut oil. Sometimes I add pearl powder or xylitol. It's really great.

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Vinnie's avatar

Lots has changed for sure....

I am appreciative for all the good health guidance over the years it seems selfish to keep such simple decent solutions to the self...

Happy to share!

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Objective Stomach's avatar

Ah fuck.

When I was in my teens I was dumb and stupid. Suffered a massive oral trauma in which i broke my jaw in the places and blew out most of my teeth.

Years, I mean YEARS of debtal reconstruction. None of my teeth are alive, everyone that is original in my mouth has been root canal. I have a series of implants too, two of which failed a few years back and caused a large infection in my lower jaw, needless to say had those replaced and the bone grafted, etc.

Easily 40-50k on my mouth since my teens. I am now 40 and know I am facing a lifetime of ongoing BS with my teeth and oral health.

I can only image my health impacts.

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear that. I can only imagine what you've been through. I had a friend in college who claimed she had genetically bad teeth. So she went to the local dentistry school where they recommended that she have every tooth extracted and replaced with an implant. The process took about six months to complete and it was rife with complications, infections, etc.

I'd recommend watching that documentary if you have a chance. It'll probably scare you to hear what this guy went through with just one root canal, but it might lead you down a path to improving your oral health or otherwise.

Dr. Mercola is in the documentary. Just for a second, but he's there. So I'm wondering if he has recommendations on how to fix major disruption to the mouth like that. Another reader just turned me onto a Substack that digs deeper into this topic. It looks like he's actually writing a book about it -- https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/281-judas-dentistry.

I'd suggest checking out that post and then looking through the comments. A lot of people have stories about turning to holistic or biologic dentists. Perhaps that'll give you some relief? Probably not on your wallet since insurance carriers would never cover something that actually helps you, but it might lessen how much work and maintenance you need done in the future.

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Objective Stomach's avatar

I have seen the documentary and I'll admit it was a bit disheartening considered of my past experience.

I plan on having bioresonance done to determine to what extent exactly my oral taxidermy is affecting my health. Had of known the things I do now at that time I would have opted for full removal of teeth and zero implants. Minds you this all happened in my teenage years and from a social perspective at that age I doubt I would have opted for no teeth.lol

I will absolutely check out the article.

I am happy to report that Ihaven't been to a dentist in a number of years! I would rather go the route of Castaway dentistry on the fly rather than be subjected to the barbaric practice I've come to know as "modern dentistry".

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Vinnie's avatar

Gingivitis?

Vitamin C

Rinse after brushing with 1 teaspoon H2O2 to 4 oz water

Yellow?

Brush teeth every other week with your favorite toothpaste dipped in baking soda

Suggestions from my wonderful dental hygienist who saved my teeth and money.

Use those little plastic thingy's with the floss attached to clean between the teeth BEFORE rinsing with the H2O2 mixture.

It will allow the cleanser to get in and up under the gums to disinfect and allow blood to flow to the nerves/ tooth allow the tooth to stay alive

-been following her advice for 20 years now.

All the best to you.

No more potty mouth!

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

I've also heard that oil pulling and gargling with salt water helps. I'll add your suggestions to the list!

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Vinnie's avatar

Yes, I think it's coconut oil...

Salt water is good disinfectant as well...

Happy to share what is simple and WORKS!

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

Out of curiosity: Where did you find this hygienist? Was it just at a regular dentist's office? I have never once had any hygienist or dentist give me practical, all-natural tips for dental care at home. It's always just been, "Come back in six months!".

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Vinnie's avatar

Suzanna, several years ago... like 20! I also was having gum receding issues she asked if I took any anti/depressants...

and shoed me an article from dental journal on hoe certain meds affect body tissues and gums are tissue... I changed meds.. and have followed her guidance since then.

It was a 'normal' dentist office prior to 2005 or so where insurances and such forced many medical professionals into groups...

The same time my lovely family GP warned me of changes to come and chose early retirement...

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

Wow! That's wonderful you stumbled upon such honest and decent medical pros. I feel like that sort of thing just does not exist today. I don't know if it's all the incentives they get from Big Pharma, the brainwashing from med school, or the egregious amount of money they make, but it's impossible to find anyone who actually cares about the health of their patient.

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Michael's avatar

Excellently written, Suzanne. I have come to the same conclusion recently. Another marvelous resource that is full of vitriol, good information, and advice is Dr Robert Yoho’s “Judas Dentistry.” I recommend his Substack and other books as well. Cheers 🥂

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

Thank you for the recommendation! I've only just started down this rabbit hole, so I definitely need more reading material.

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Ray Horvath, "The Source" :)'s avatar

Nice summary.

Dental treatment has also become life-threatening:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-are-the-alternatives-for-dental

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Suzanne Scacca's avatar

No need to qualify that you're not a doctor. I think that's what's gotten us to where we are in society today. Too many people put faith and trust in that title. I am much more likely to believe and trust experiences like yours since they're based on intuition and actual observation, not just repeating whatever was in a textbook. Or being pushed by third party companies who just want to make more money off of forever patients and sick people.

So I appreciate you sharing your story with me! I'm going to try switching to a natural toothpaste alternative. I'll give the peroxide a try. Someone else on here was saying they created a clay mixture, so I'm going to give that a shot as well.

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